frequently asked questions regarding the goat milk infant formula recipe

Frequently Asked Questions

Q. How long will the formula last once in the fridge?

Up to three days. I always recommend doing a sniff/taste test on the third day.

Q. How long can the formula be out of the refrigerator once it is made?

It should be used within an hour.

Q. I want to take the formula with me traveling. What tips do you have for making the formula while “on the road?”

We highly recommend using our Dry Mix Recipe when traveling. All you need is a thermos of hot water and you are good to go.

Q. I want to use liquid/raw goat milk in my formula instead of the powder. How should the recipe be modified?

The ratio is easy ratio to remember: 1:1.

It is a 1:1 ratio of milk to water. 4 ounces milk  to 4 ounces of warm water and everything else in the recipe stays the same.

Warning: I LOVE raw milk. I completely believe that it is superior to pasteurized milk. However, I don’t recommend using raw goat milk in the infant formula for one very important reason. While raw milk can be incredibly healthy, it can also be incredibly dangerous. I am specifically referring to raw milk that has been improperly handled. Dirty raw milk will get you sicker quicker than anything! Babies especially are even more susceptible to kind of food borne illness. Please keep your little one safe. This formula is meant to mimic raw milk (probiotics, food based vitamins/minerals, unprocessed fats, etc.) without the risks that raw milk comes with such as campylobacter, salmonella, e. coli, and listeria poisoning. Consider a basic risk assessment. In my opinion, the cons outweigh the pros in using raw milk.

Q. I want to use this formula for – (insert age here). Can I do this?

Interestingly enough when I first developed this recipe I recommended parents hold off until baby was a few months old. However, we have been constantly updating and improving the formula and have had such overwhelmingly great feedback for all ages between newborn and 1 year that I feel comfortable recommending the formula to all ages. I never get tired of saying this though, keep your doctor in the loop.

Q. My doctor says this will cause metabolic acidosis. Is this true?

This is a common mistake that pediatricians and other healthcare practitioners make when they haven’t fully understood, investigated, or researched the formula carefully. It is also understandable as goat milk by itself is not a good option for infants.
The connection between metabolic acidosis and goat milk only comes when undiluted goat milk is used as the only ingredient. In other words, plain goat milk is fed as the sole nutrient source.
Please see the following links for studies discussing metabolic acidosis here, here, here , and here
You will see that in all of these cases, metabolic acidosis only occurred when undiluted goat milk was used.
This formula recipe contains diluted goat milk and therefore both the protein and chloride levels are at a safe level to be used.
Our Nutrient Database is the perfect resource to give to your healthcare practitioner to show that metabolic acidosis is not a risk with this formula.

Q. Where should I buy all the other ingredients?

Amazon, your local grocery store, etc. are all great places to find the more common ingredients like molasses and oils. If you really want easy you can simply purchase the goat milk formula kit we offer. Total retail value of kit is over $200 and contains all the wholesome ingredients necessary to make the formula at home.

Q. Do we use the multivitamins/probiotics in every bottle we make?

Nope, just one bottle per day.

Q. I thought goat milk was low in folic acid and vitamin b12?

You are right. (good job!) That is why we add the multivitamin drops.

Q. The directions on the milk powder says I should use 2 scoops but your recipe only calls for one. Why is that?

A baby under 12 months old still has developing kidneys. Straight, “full strength” goat milk powder uses two scoops. There is simply too much protein and naturally occurring sodium in that amount of milk powder for the maturing kidney’s of a baby to handle. Therefore we reduce the amount of milk powder to reduce the amount of protein. We then increase the amount of carbohydrates to make up for what we’ve taken out.

Q. Is my baby getting enough iron with this formula?

Yes and here is why. When a baby is born full term they usually have a 6 month supply of iron that they have stored up while still in the womb. Therefore, from 0-6 months, the iron requirement for infants is only .27 mg/day. After six months however, the requirement jumps up to 11 mg for babies between 7 -12 months and then drops back down to 7 mg/day for toddlers 1-3 years of age. (The iron RDA won’t go back up to 11mg/day until your son or daughter is a teenager.) The formula that I created will deliver 0.5mg iron/100 calories of formula. Usually by the time a baby gets to 6 months, they begin eating a variety of solid foods and as long as parents are careful to include iron rich foods (winter squash, sweet potato etc.) along with vitamin C rich fruits and vegetables (vitamin C assists with iron absorption) supplementing with iron drops shouldn’t be necessary. However if you choose to supplement with iron drops remember that often these can cause constipation.

Q. My baby just started the formula and loves it! He seems constipated though. Should I be worried?

I am frequently asked how to handle this issue, and while this document is not meant to be a substitute for medical advice, nor is it a comprehensive list of all treatment options, it does contain some tips that are frequently used to help aid in moving things along.

For a brief time, I recommend the following:

Quadruple the amount of molasses until baby has a big, full diaper (1 to 3 days).

Reduce the amount of molasses by half until baby is pooping the amount, consistency, and frequency that is “normal” for your LO.

Use coconut oil in place of goat milk ghee.

Please keep in mind that bowel movements will vary greatly from one child to another.

If your child is experiencing symptoms such as fever, vomiting, lethargy, not eating well, etc., please contact your health care professional.

Q. I’m using goat milk powder from Meyenberg. Is that okay? Does it change the formula?

Yes this is okay.  Please don’t use the liquid goat milk Meyenberg offers at your local grocery store. It has been ultra-pasteurized (UHT) which gives it a much longer shelf life but drastically decreases the digestibility of the milk. Ultra-pasteurization ultimately makes food a nutritional wasteland.  If UHT goat milk is your only option temporarily, don’t worry, it will get you by in an emergency. As soon as possible though, get a high quality goat milk powder or find a liquid pasteurized variety from a local farmer.

Q. The vitamin powder says 6-12 months but my baby is less than 6 months. What should I do?

Marketing anything for babies under 6 months carries a lot of liability for manufacturers and therefore they are often unwilling to place written recommendation on their labeling that recommends infants less than 6 months use the product. There aren’t any ingredients that would be dangerous for a baby less than 6 months therefore I have no problem giving baby the vitamin powder. As always, keep your doctor in the loop so they can be aware of any special considerations your baby may need.

Q. Another formula I researched contains raw liver, nutritional yeast, acerola powder, egg yolks, beef gelatin, etc. Why don’t you recommend these ingredients?

The formula I’ve created is meant to be a simple wholesome formula that is both affordable, practical, and scientifically/nutritionally sound. The more I have studied these formulas that include such things as raw liver and nutritional yeast (yuck) the more I am convinced that they are lacking in key micronutrients. Regardless, including all those extra ingredients keeps the formula out of reach for most people, including myself, to actually use. Making your own formula out home is already a big commitment although it is not difficult. If it is going to require several extra steps, rely on questionable ingredients, AND still be nutritionally unsound, then I am not much of a fan.

Q. I’m stressing out that I won’t make this formula right. I want it to be perfect for my baby!

I do too! Developing infants need a lot of wholesome nutrition in their first year of life but we sometimes forget how resilient the growing body is to various forms of nutrition. Breast milk alone is obviously the gold standard but the nutritional composition varies wildly from week to week, day to day, and even hour to hour. Therefore don’t stress out about every little microcosm of the formula. If your baby gets a little more oil in a bottle than the recipe calls for, don’t worry about it. Breast milk fat, lactose (carbs), and protein go up and down a lot over the course of the first year of baby’s life. If you forget to add the vitamins, stay calm, it’s not the end of the world. You baby will be fine. Just follow the recipe as closely as you can and your baby will do great! Good job giving your baby the best formula available!

Q. Does the formula require any changes as my child gets older?

No the formula is designed for use until baby reaches 12 months.

Q. In earlier versions, coconut oil and olive oil took the place of the ghee/sunflower/grapeseed oil. Is this still the case or does the coconut/olive oil not compare to the benefits of using the other three?

If you would like to still use the coconut/olive oil you can, if you add the 1/8 tsp of Grapeseed oil. This will ensure the proper amount of linoleic acid per serving of formula.

Q. Can this recipe be used for toddlers, older than 12 months? I  am looking for an alternative to formula that I can give until my baby is 2-3 years old.

Yes, it can be. Everything in the formula recipe is real food. You will want to keep your doctor in the loop if you choose to continue to feed the recipe to your toddler.

Q. What are your thoughts about using raw goat milk kefir in place of plain goat milk in the formula recipe, for probiotics?

I don’t recommend using raw goat milk (kefir or not) due to contamination concerns. Using a probiotic supplement is a safer way of delivering the beneficial bacteria.

Q. Can I use a substitute for the additional lactose?

Sure. In fact, we have a whole list of acceptable substitutions. Join our private Facebook group to get access to the entire list.

Q. How long do the ingredients in my HGMF Kit keep?

Each item in your kit has an expiration or best by date on each item. Most items are good for at least one year.

Q. 8 ounces of water added or 8 ounces total volume? Or is both ok?

The answer is 8 ounces total volume.

Q. I use your formula to supplement for my five-month-old and I was wondering if I could freeze it like I freeze breast milk?

You sure can! Join our private Facebook group to review our storage guidelines.

Q. What would the measurements be for a 6 ounce bottle?

This is a bit tough to do. Basically, you would need to make each measurement 3/4 (or 75%) of the regular recipe. The most accurate way to get 6 ounces of formula at a time would be to make 24 ounces of formula and then split those 24 ounces into four, 6 ounce bottles.

Q. Why is the nipple clogging!?

First, make sure that you are using hot water to help all the powdered ingredients dissolve. Many people have told me that they like to use a shaker cup with a metal ball, an immersion blender, or a whisk. I even know some ladies who whip out their Vitamix!

Q. My pediatrician isn’t supportive…..HELP!

This can be very tough. Our best advice is, “do your research!” Review our nutrient database and FAQ’s. In the near future we plan to have a short letter (it will be available to our private Facebook members) that you can give to your pediatrician, which will explain the benefits of our HGMF recipe.

Q. What is the advantage of making the Dry Mix Recipe?

In a word; EVERYTHING! Our Dry Mix Recipe makes it so much easier to send your LO to grandma’s house or daycare. It also makes traveling a cinch. All you need is a thermos of hot water and voila! You are in business.

Q. Should I be giving my baby folic acid or methylfolate?

This topic comes up a lot due to current research surrounding the MTHFR gene. It you aren’t familiar with this topic, you can check out this article written by the Wellness Mama.

Q. What is the best bottle to use?

This a matter of personal preference. I have noticed that many families who use our HGMF recipe report that Dr. Brown’s bottles DO NOT work well with our recipe.

Q. Is there a way to make this formula lactose free?

No. However, there a several substitutions that can be made to replace the additional lactose in our recipe. This will drastically reduce the amount of lactose.

Q. Should I introduce the HGMF recipe slowly?

It really depends on your baby. If your LO is experiencing problems with his/her current formula or breastmilk, it may make sense to just switch cold turkey. However, if your LO isn’t experiencing any specific side effects from their current feeding method, a slower transition may be in order.

Q. Where can I get after hours help for HGMF feeding support?

Lori Smith, R.N., NTP, has posted her cell phone number in her private Facebook group. You can contact her at any time for support. If you haven’t joined her group yet, you can do so here.

Q. I accidentally bought non-fat milk, now what?

No problem! You can just double the amount of grass fed goat milk ghee and high oleic Sunflower oil in our recipe and you are good to go!

Q. If I am breastfeeding do I still need to include the once daily    items?

This is totally up to you. I recommend that we provide baby with the most nutrient dense food possible.

Q. What kind of water do you recommend using with this recipe?

Any clean water will do. I recommend using a good water source that doesn’t contain fluoride and is NOT distilled. Distilled water can cause an electrolyte imbalance in your baby.

Q. Can I buy refill items for my HGMF Kit in bulk?

You sure can! We offer our HGMF Refill Bundle which will provide you with about a month’s supply of refill ingredients to supplement your HGMF Kit.

Q. Is there a substitution for grapeseed oil?

Not at this time. Grapeseed oil delivers the essential fatty acid linoleic acid. Baby cannot make this essential fatty acid on their own. You can get more information about the type of fats that we use and why, in this LIVESTREAM video.

Q. My baby requires a formula with an increased calorie count.    Can I still use your HGMF recipe?

Yes! Please contact Lori@mtcapra.com to discuss your options.

Q. How long will the items in my HGMF Kit last?

It all depends on how much your baby drinks in a day. Here is a guideline to help you plan for your specific needs.

 

 

 

 

Published by

Joe Stout, M.S.

Joe received a Masters of Science in Clinical Human Nutrition from the University of Bridgeport and a Bachelors of Science in Human Nutrition and Food Science from Washington State University. Along with running the farm, He has engaged in graduate studies of Sustainable Food Systems at Green Mountain College and is certified in Permaculture Design having studied under the world renowned Geoff Lawton. Joe and his wonderful bride Elizabeth have been married for 10 years and have been blessed with 6 beautiful children.

52 thoughts on “Frequently Asked Questions”

  1. In earlier versions, coconut oil and olive oil took the place of the ghee/sunflower/grapeseed oil. Is this still the case or does the coconut/olive oil not compare to the benefits of using the other three?

    1. If you would like to still use the coconut/olive oil you can as long as you add the 1/8 tsp of Grapeseed oil. This will ensure the proper amount of linoleic acid per serving of formula.

  2. Can we still review the earlier version of the recipe? I used this for recipe for my daughter from 6 months-12 months. She’s now 3. I’d just like to do a comparison on the ingredients from that version to this newer one. Thanks for your help.

    1. In an effort to keep confusion at a minimum I have always updated the new recipes by replacing the old recipes. Some of the changes that have taken place over the course of the last few years are the addition of grapeseed oil, replacing coconut oil with grass-fed goat milk ghee, replacing turbinado sugar with goat milk lactose, and recommending that the DHA supplement be a required addition. Also the early version of the recipe utilized olive oil and now I recommend hi-oleic sunflower oil. Does that help?

  3. Can this recipe be used for toddlers, older than 12 months? I just discovered your recipe and my daughter is 10 months old. I’m looking for an alternative to formula that I can give until she’s 2-3 years old.

    1. Yes it can be. Everything in the formula is real food. You will want to keep your doctor in the loop if you choose to continue to feed the formula to your toddler.

  4. I can’t get grapeseed oil or lactose where I live.
    Can I use flaxseed oil (linseed) to replace grapeseed, it also has linoleic acid, and what would you recommend as the substitution amount?
    Also, could I use organic demerara sugar in the same amount as the lactose?

    Also, what are your thoughts about using raw goat milk kefir in place of plain goat milk in the formula, for the probiotics?

    Thank you!

    1. Flaxseed is fine to you. 1/8 tsp would still be a good amount to use. Demerara sugar is fine to use in the same amount. I don’t recommend using raw goat milk (kefir or not) due to contamination concerns. Using a probiotic supplement is a safer way of delivering the beneficial bacteria.

      1. Can I use Organic Raw brown sugar in place of turbinado sugar? We dont get turbinado sugar in South Africa and Pure Maple Syrup is very expensive.

  5. I have a newborn and don’t want to make one bottle at a time. Is there a recipe for making 1/2 gallon at a time?

  6. My son is 2 months old. I bought your formula infant kit and i’m newby at making this formula. I wanted to know do I introduce each ingredient individually with the goats milk or should I give it to him all at once?

  7. Hello! I made the formula for my first son and continued to give him the goat milk until he was 2 and a half (adjusted as he got older obviously). I now have a four-month-old and plan to start giving him 4-8 ounces of the formula per day to supplement my breast milk (he is starting to drink more than I am producing). My question is how would you go about adding the “once per day ingredients” as my son is still receiving breast milk?
    Also, how long does the powdered goat milk keep? I purchased a 10lb bag of the whole powdered goat milk in November 2016, but I never finished it. The package was opened, but I sealed it and stored it. Would it still be safe to use now? Or, should I discard and purchase new?
    Thank you very much! We have LOVED your goat milk formula.

    1. Hi Michelle,

      I would recommend that you do give the once per day ingredients simply because they are good healthy ingredients regardless of breast feeding or not. Also, the shelf life of the whole milk last for 18 months so manufactured in Nov. 2016 means the milk is totally fine at least until May 2018 (probably longer than that too)

      1. Joe, thank you SO much for the reply. I leaned that way on the vitamins, but I wanted to be sure. Also, I tasted the goat milk for my self to be sure it was okay, and it tasted fine. I am glad you confirmed the shelf life though! I greatly appreciate it. I have referred so many people to your website for the formula. Most people have no idea that there are options other than prepackaged formula.

      2. Hi Joe! Just wondering the shelf life of the Capra Lactose and the ghee! I bought and used the ingredients for my son up until he was 14 months old. The manufacture date on the lactose is 06/17 and the ghee is 02/17 (both have never been opened or stored in the fridge…only in a cool, dark pantry). Thank you!

  8. A lot of the ghee sticks to the side of the container of prepared milk and the bottles. The oils do as well, but not as much. I want to make sure my baby eats the ghee. Do I need to heat the bottles? Right now, as my baby is seven months old, I am giving pieces of refrigerated ghee to her in its solid form as a pre-milk snack.

    1. Hi Amy

      Yes a bottle warmer is really nice to have as it melts the saturated fats in the ghee so they are a liquid again. Just out of curiosity, does baby drink the bottle cold? Pieces of refrigerated ghee as a snack is a novel way to get some heathy fats in her!

      1. Hi, Joe,

        Thanks for your response. I will start heating the bottles before using. Good tip on the bottle warmer.

        I still have a small conundrum to bring up: The fact that the ghee tends to congeal in the fridge means that one should pour large batches made into separate bottles before storing in the fridge. I had tried to store a batch in a pitcher and then pour into bottles as needed. (I don’t own more than a couple of bottles.) It did not work unless I first let the pitcher be brought to room temperature. That proved not very practical. Please consider mentioning that for large batches, you recommend pouring the formula into separate bottles before storing in the fridge. Then, each individual bottle can be reheated before serving. For me, this means either making smaller batches or purchasing more bottles.

        Yes, normally my baby is fine with having the bottles cold straight out of the fridge. She doesn’t seem to mind either way. In some cases that is beneficial. In fact, one of our friend’s has a baby with special needs, and the doctor actually recommended serving the bottle cold because it helped the baby to swallow it for some reason. She had to carry ice packs everywhere. However, I think we all know that most babies would not prefer cold bottles. I’ll be warming the Mt. Capra bottles for her though before serving. 🙂

  9. I am confused about the amount of water. Something is not quite right here. On the directions, it says to add water so that the total volume is 8 oz. This means that there will be actually less than 8 oz of water in the formula because the powdered ingredients, etc. take up space in the bottle (maybe about half an ounce, in my experience). However, on the chart, it says that for a 9 ounce baby, once scoop of goat milk is recommended to go with 8 ounces of water. This is actually more water than is present in the formula recipe. So which is it? 8 ounces water added, or 8 ounces total volume? Or is both okay?

    1. Hi Amy,

      I’m a little confused. What do you mean when you say ”

        on the chart it says that for a 9 ounce baby


      What chart are you referring to?
      The answer is 8 oz total volume. I just want to make sure I understand your whole question.

      1. That answers my main question. Please correct me if I am wrong because I could easily just be confused; however, there still seems to be some inconsistency here.

        I am referring to the chart at the bottom of this blog suggesting the schedule gradually moving from diluted goat’s milk to regular goat’s milk. It mentions using 8 oz of water here. However, that is more water than is present in the regular formula recipe.

        Additionally, if the total volume is to be 8oz, meaning that there is actually less 8oz of water, then the recipes for the pint, quart, and gallon are different. For the pint, for example, it says to add 2 cups of water, period. There is no reference to total volume. This means that the pint, quart, and gallon recipes are actually more diluted than the 8oz recipe. Over a gallon of milk, the difference is fairly large.

        If these differences don’t matter because the nutrients will still be in the acceptable range, that would make sense.

  10. I use your formula to supplement for my five month old and I was wondering if I could freeze it like I freeze breast milk? Sometimes I like to make a little bit more ahead of time because people like my mom and husband won’t take the time to figure out how to make the formula. Thoughts?
    And THANK YOU!!! I came back to this formula after having great success with my first child who wouldn’t respond well to any other kind of formula…. Truly a life-saver!

    -Carla Gavilanez

    1. Yes you can freeze it like breast milk! Freezing in individual pack sizes is ideal so that you are only thawing out one bottles worth at a time. Thanks for sharing your story and your welcome!!!

  11. Can you send me the amount of ingredients for a 4 or 5 oz bottle. My little one only drinks 4 oz at a time. I made it in a large batch but it clumps up and it’s much better fresh. thanks

  12. Hello
    My newborn is 23 days old. For the past 5 days he has been spitting up more than usual. Are there an ingredients I can temporarily eliminate to reduce this?

    1. Sometimes it can be helpful to back off on the oils temporarily which can reduce spitting up. Let me know if that helps.

  13. The recipe calls for 1/2tsp of ghee, is that melted or solidified? If you melted a 1/2tsp is would end about to be way more than a 1/2.

    Also, if a baby is drinking approx. 30 oz per day, how long will the 10lb bags last?

    Do you give the entire serving of multivitamin even if baby drinks only about 20oz or less a day?

    1. The ghee is pretty much the same either way. 1/2 tsp of melted ghee is the same as solid ghee. I believe at 30 oz a day a 10 pound bag would last around 90-100 days. Yes I always give the full serving of vitamins.

  14. How long after opening do the ingredients keep? When we have used powdered commercial formula it said to use within 30 days of opening, so i’m wondering if the milk powder and lactose are only good for this long, or do they keep longer? How long will the ghee keep after opening if it’s in my cupboard?

    1. Hi Jessica,

      They keep for a really long time. Usually 12 months is good with the milk powder. The lactose is pretty more indefinite because it is sugar and the ghee is good for several months, longer if you keep it in the fridge.

  15. What would the formula be for a 6oz bottle? My daughter rarely eats a full 8 oz at a time. I could probably figure it out, but would feel more confident if you told me.

    1. Hi Elieen,

      That is a bit tough to do. Basically you would need to make each measurement 3/4 (or 75%) of the regular recipe. 3/4 scoop of milk, 3/4 tbsp of lactose, etc. This becomes difficult when you get into the 1/4 tsp and 1/8 tsp. etc. as these measurements are setup to use standard measuring utensils but 6 oz recipes are not. The most accurate way to get 6 oz of formula at a time would be to triple the recipe and make 24 oz and then split those 24 oz into (4) 6 oz. bottles.

      1. Is there a recipe for a 4oz bottle? If my son doesn’t drink the full 8oz bottle can it be refrigerated then reheated so he can finish it later on?

  16. Just ordered our first formula kit. We would like to do a large batch at the beginning of each day. probably 15-30 ounces. Is there a different recipe or should I just base it off the 8ounce one?

  17. Aloha! My baby is 3 months in may 24th I started to give him the milk a week ago and he’s skin started to show up allergies is it a transition of breatmilk to goat milk I am compensating because I am not producing enough milk :/

  18. Also, for an infant who is only a month old taking this formula, if just using as a supplement using breast milk most of the day, would u still add the vitamins? We made an 8oz bottle with the recipe provided but she only drinks 3oz at a time, how do we divide the probiotic and vitamin? Do you put it into the 8oz bottle as directed and then divide the bottle into 2-3oz bottles?

  19. How do I get the recipe for the larger batch? Also, if I use brown rice syrup instead of the lactose, would I use the same amount? Thank you!

  20. Sometimes after making a 32oz batch the bottles look broken up/separated even after and leave a oily film on the bottle. What causes this? My son is in daycare so we have to pre make the bottles the night before.

  21. I used this 4 yrs ago with my son and remember that it was recommended to use 1 scoop of Capra powder but 2of Meyenberg. Is that still correct? Thank you

  22. What are your thoughts about using this recipe with organic grass fed cow’s milk? Also what about using with liquid goat’s milk now available in the refrigerated section of some stores?

  23. any suggestions on how to mix the hot water with cold water without using plastic baby bottles? i think the hot water would make glass shatter?

  24. i tried the formula for the first time today and the formula seems to get clogged in the nipple. i noticed this bc my child was furiously trying to get milk out. is there any idea on which ingredient is causing this or how to handle this? thanks

  25. Any advice on how to travel, on a plane, with the ingredients for this formula? We are currently supplementing one bottle a day with the goat milk formula (which my son loves!) and are going on a family vacation in a couple of weeks. Trying to figure out the best way to travel with what we need with the potential of perhaps having to purchase some ingredients when we get to our destination? 🙂

  26. The old recipe with olive oil, coconut oil, turbinado sugar is still safe right? Also how much for 4 ounce bottles

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